What inspired you to take the next step and take up bodybuilding diet and training? When did you start weight training for bodybuilding or have you always done it.
Other than teaching pump at the gym I did not do weights. I never went into the weights section of the gym. I enjoyed doing cardio and teaching pump, that was enough for me. I loved motivating the people in my class. A lot of the women in my classes saw me transform while I was on Jenny Craig so to them I was a ‘real person'. We all have part of our body we which were different, for me it was my legs, especially my knees. When I moved to Whangamata Jason used to get up most mornings and head to the gym. He has always lifted weights. I used to roll over and growl at him because he had woken me. I was becoming a slob again! And I hated it.
It was around this time I lost my grandmother. She died of cancer. She was a smoker like me and one of the last things she ever said to me was "oh ness I wish I had never smoked, I wish I could turn the clock back'. This played on my mind big time, still does. I didn't want my daughter to watch me die of any terminal illness, so I gave up smoking. And to be honest it was easy. I was ready. No one we knew smoked, I didn't smoke during the day because of my job. It was purely social for me. When I drank I smoked, but because I drank a lot I smoked a lot. Anyway, I gave up smoking, that's what changed things for me because when I stopped smoking I took up eating and I began to grow and grow and grow, I was getting fat again.
I then got talking to one of the ladies that worked out our local gym Bodywork. She had done a bodybuiling competition, she suggested I look at doing a competition. It would be a good distraction, and it would enable me to get my eating under control and lose some weight. It would also teach me how to change my eating habits.
How important has been for you and Jason to go through the journey together? Could you have done it without him and vice versa?
Mmm tough question Lisa. Yes I think I could have. I am a very determined person. When I set myself a goal I follow it through. And I am a real perfectionist, so if something is important to me, I do it to the best of my ability. This is a good trait to have in my job, but in my personal life, it's tough because I have very high expectations of myself.
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I have just asked Jason this question and he said "I would not have done it without you, it never would have entered my mind". When I decided I was going to do a comp Jason said oh well I might as well do it with you. And the rest as they say is history. Now we are a good team. I feel like we are that couple I used to watch in the gym in the Mount. People always say it must make it easier doing this together. And I guess to a certain extent it is, but it also isn't. When we are dieting pre contest, we get grumpy, tired and our poor daughter has to put up with two people forgetting where they have put their stuff. It's always easier cooking meals for more than one person and we share the load really well. Jason will see I am tired one night so he will just get in the kitchen, prepare dinner, and lunch the next day, and I do the same on the days I can see his eyes hazing over. It's certainly easier than sitting at home at night with a partner scoffing on your favourite packet of Tim Tams!
What has bodybuilding taught you about eating, training and managing a healthy lifestyle?
That you should never eat to feel full. Food is about survival not satisfaction. Don't get me wrong, I love food, but the food I used to eat does not go in my mouth in great quantities anymore. I can't eat bread, I am completely gluten intolerant, I don't enjoy sugar, it gives me headaches, and I can't stand missing a morning at the gym.
How many years have you been competing? Your achievements?
I am my 3rd year of training. I have had some good achievements and have been really pleased with all my results, especially this year. But to be totally honest my biggest achievement has not involved a bikini or tanning products. My biggest achievement has been losing weight, being happy in my skin and becoming a nonsmoker. I have given myself a higher chance of survival. That's my biggest achievement.
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What's been your proudest moment in your contest career so far?
It's funny you should ask me this. I remember being on stage at the NABBA 2011 Nationals, I was on stage with women aged between 35 and 45 and I could hear these young kids yelling out to their mums and grandmothers telling them how fantastic they looked.
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That was really humbling for me. I felt really proud to be up there. An women looking lean and muscular in the best condition of my life. And in reality we are wives, mothers, and grandmothers and although we do it for ourselves, it's a great feeling to hear our children tell us how proud of us they are. I love hearing the kids cheering for their mums on stage. When I hear my daughter, I feel extremely proud. What was your typical day in your pre contest training and cardio programme? Can you give a sample week in your training?
At the moment our training is centered on growth so we are doing 3- 4 pyramid sets of low reps, as heavy as we can. I train with Jason every morning, we spot each other, so we are always challenging ourselves and pushing each other to get that last rep out. Our training programme is exactly the same.
Monday AM Chest & Biceps, Cardio PM
Tuesday Legs
Wednesday AM Cardio
Thursday AM Spin (I teach this class)
Friday AM Shoulders
Saturday AM Back, Triceps
Sunday REST
You're now just entering the ‘off season', how much weight will you let yourself put on to be comfy with? And how will you maintain it.
For the last 2 years my off season weight has been around 60 - 62kg. I have not enjoyed being this weight, so I am maintaining my weight this year at 58kg. Which has actually been really easy. Tarren McCall does all our nutrition, and she is amazing. She has so much knowledge and she has some great recipes. So we have lots of options in our diet, and I think that's half the battle, because we have lots of options we never get sick of what we eat. Obviously when we are heading into our pre-contest stage our nutrition changes and our calories start to drop but at the moment we are eating really well. My mother sees how often we eat and she can't believe we actually loose body fat eating that much food. I get really sick of people asking me (at least 10 times a day) are you eating normal yet. Body builders must get so sick of that question. They don't realize that what I am eating and have been eating is normal to me. Ok I don't eat bread, pizza, cakes, lollies, ice cream, or drink alcohol, in my off season I could have a few of these items but I choose not to, because they make me feel terrible.
Have you had a role model who's inspired you? Not really.
What's your ultimate goal in Bodybuilding? Just to keep doing this for as long as I can and to be the best I can be. I have had a really good year this year, I have enjoyed every show, and I can't wait till next year!
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